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first_img Share on Twitter AppleAndCider I navigated to, and then away from, a photo story about bound feet in the Economist that exceeded my number of free articles for the month. If you open it in a different browser they’ll let you in – at least they used to. I’d have thought our hosts might have arranged access for you. 2 23 Mar 2018 2:55 Reply Report Facebook Twitter If you want lots of likes invent an idea BTL. My female pee trough idea got loads. Reply Share on Twitter Share Share on Facebook 8 9 Reply 23 Mar 2018 0:51 Ever felt you’ve had a zuckerwilly up your bum ? 16 17 alanredangel Reply felix4294967296 5 6 CallmeMike Share on Twitter 22 23 Support The Guardian Topics Twitter Reply Twitter Twitter Facebook Share I’d like to give you 10 upvotes. It would have been 20 but you should have said “The Brexit Elite and pensioners and racist thugs will destroy our country.” Anyway, well put. Share on Facebook 49 50 VinceDaFox Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Reply Order by oldest Facebook Washington_Irving Report Share on Twitter Au contraire, Lady, au contraire. They need you to keep them informed. Facebook’s algorithms drive focused reinforcement of a user’s current state. They pigeonhole their users ready to be toasted by the Cambridge Analyticas of this world. lotusblue 4 11 12 First off, you can’t be a Guardian commenter and get on a high horse about Facebook. Secondly, there is a fascinating inversely proportional relationship between how often you check it and how interesting you find its content. Even their algorithms can’t compensate for that. collapsed Share on Facebook lotusblue Report | Pick Reply Share on Facebook bradgate Report Send them a text. There’s a good chance Zuckerberg won’t be spying on you, then. Twitter Share Report Facebook Cogitaantesalis Share on Facebook By the time I was done with all this it was after 9pm. A lot has been written this week about how users of Facebook have themselves been used, but, in the interests of gauging what might be lost by deleting the app, looking at my own usage was pretty sobering. Half the appeal, I became aware, was the muscle memory of scrolling and tapping – even, I suspect, of the eye movement – a series of small, fluid gestures that joined together felt soothing, in a way that might be recognised by a long-term chain smoker. I was conscious as I scrolled that emotion was being generated, frequently strong disdain – in this case, for someone who keeps putting up motivational messages and seems to be having a breakdown – and that this was, for a short while, gratifying.I was also aware of how fast that feeling drained. The night before, I had read 20 pages of Elizabeth Bowen’s novel The Last September, while piously ignoring the phone by my side, and it had felt simultaneously nourishing and also almost unbearably slow.I tell myself I need Facebook to stay informed, and there is some truth to this. I like the way, unlike on Twitter, old stories circulate again and again until finally I get around – or so it feels – to reading everything. And I like the passive connectivity; browsing the wedding photos of my third cousin once removed is a peculiar pastime, and yet it feels meaningful, keeping afloat an idea of the family in a way that makes the world feel marginally warmer. Share on Twitter 22 23 Yawn. Facebook, believe it or not, is a really useful way of staying in touch with people, just like email. From time to time I think of someone and I can just write them a note. No need to keep an address book up to date. It’s all very convenient. I don’t need sanctimonious Guardian journalists driveling on about how it’s all a waste of time. Commenting below the line, now that’s a real waste of time… Share on Facebook Reply Abigailgem Facebook Contact author Share on Facebook Reply Facebook Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick 2 3 | Pick You may be happy about broadcasting to the world now…but how about next year, when circumstances or political persuasions have changed? | Pick oldest Share on Facebook Reply Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook But you can get on your high horse about offshore tax efficiency, the gender pay gap and unpaid interns. Share on Facebook | Pick Report Twitter Facebook Report Report 1 Twitter Share on Twitter Twitter Share 3 4 Micro targeting with advertising and tailoring advertisements on the basis of psychological profile of a certain user. The way how big data is mined to produce the right advertising response and how to gauge the accuracy of advertisements wether for products, services or to engage voters, is as old as the advertising and marketing themselves. What is different though, is the volume and wealth of data, the speed to process the data, to disseminate it worldwide to millions of individuals, and the ability to target users with personalised messages with the purpose of promoting more than just products or services. In this respect, it if is true that FB has over 2.2 bn users worldwide, then gathering data will provide FB endless reasons to attract money from advertising. The internet has changed the media and our lives dramatically, and I would hope you could agree that’s the case. Advertising as an integral part of marketing, builds brand awareness, which builds trust and credibility. Of course, that translates to more purchases or votes, if we talk social and political advertising and marketing. Technology and the the ability to connect billions of people worldwide have enabled new tools and ways for more efficient advertising. And yes, us, rich or poor, living to the max or just hobbling along, we are the consumers and the product. FB persuaded billions of individuals to subscribe to their platform by exploiting the human need to belong to a “tribe” (group) and they have cleverly increased their appeal by saying they built “communities worldwide”. However, the business model of FB will suggest the company is more an advertising corporate rather than in the tech business. The thing is, purchases are 85 percent emotional and impulsive – based on basic principles of psychology of marketing. Engaging with voters and garnering support for a political party or for certain policies are very similar to the marketing of a service and it is not very difficult to gauge how effective an advertising campaign is.Think how successful were pressure groups and lobbyists in changing social attitudes. Perhaps, some think of themselves as having nothing so special to warrant the attention of big corporates like FB, but they are wrong. FB power is defined by its ability to gather as much data, and then to learn and experiment of how to use it. Marketers are in a new world. They have time to spend learning the most current technology; they analyse all of the research data; and they search for new markets. One thing has not changed: the psychology of marketing. Human nature has not changed, though our understanding of it continually evolves as we learn. Understanding the long-standing psychological principles that affect users/ consumers/ voters engagement can help companies, organisations and politicians to use the principles of psychology and newer tactics more effectively. In the wrong hands, these tools can be as damaging as a traditional weapon. | Pick Share Show 9 more replies Share on Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 0:52 Reply 4 5 newest Twitter Twitter 23 Mar 2018 0:56 Share Facebook 23 Mar 2018 0:46 23 Mar 2018 0:31 Share on Facebook Share Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Report Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 1:07 | Pick | Pick Report 5 6 0 1 | Pick Facebook 11 12 Facebooks good for people showing what dinner they made, and all being weather men. All rushing to tell some shite story no one wants to hear. And the very, very worst is the Facebook politicians. Share on Facebook Not been reading the news, then? Reuse this content,View all comments > Share on Facebook | Pick comment lone_wolf_uk Share on Twitter Twitter Thank you for the explanation. Facebook Reply HarryTheHorse 5 6 Share on Facebook Reply 23 Mar 2018 1:09 Share Report 23 Mar 2018 1:00 | Pick Facebook Share via Email Be the first to comment too. If that fails, tag a comment onto the topmost one with the shortest thread.. Reply YOu obviously don’t know how to use facebook properly. Show 25 Reply Share Twitter Wiretrip I tell myself I need Facebook to stay informed | Pick Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 0:44 56 57 Twitter Share on Twitter Share Facebook Facebook Twitter Comments 272 | Pick Alex Vladi Share on Pinterest Reply | Pick noddingdonkey I deleted in 2014, but because I had overconnected and didn’t have the heart to separate friends from family from acquaintances from trash. Reply Loading comments… Trouble loading? Twitter Report 3 4 Reply | Pick I keep informed without Facebook. The whole internet is like an encyclopedia without Zuckerberg’s filters; you just pop a question into the search box and you get pages of answers to choose from. LessSure All The Guardian doesn’t have to discredit Facebook. It has done that all by itself. cynicalshrink Share on Twitter Twitter 23 Mar 2018 2:16 mikedow Twitter Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Report Twitter Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 1:02 23 Mar 2018 6:53 Posted on a page with umpteem facebook tracking links…. Not having an account doesn’t stop you being tracked. Share on Twitter | Pick | Pick Share alanredangel Twitter Show 5 more replies By way of an experiment, as I wound down on Facebook after my kids went to sleep, I tried to keep an eye on what I was actually doing. I clicked through to a piece on NPR (National Public Radio) about the “foster mother” of the Florida school shooter; I navigated to, and then away from, a photo story about bound feet in the Economist that exceeded my number of free articles for the month. I read several pieces about people who wanted to leave Facebook, and one comment thread under a post by a friend who said goodbye, he was actually leaving (“don’t go!” said 37 other people), and then gazed for several moments at a photo of a gorge, taken by someone I’d never met on her holiday. It was pretty and, wondering where it was, I clicked through to the comments but they only said things like “how lovely”. 23 Mar 2018 1:08 Reply 21 22 Share on Facebook 23 Mar 2018 1:04 Report 25 1 2 3 Share Twitter Share on Facebook 3 Nepthsolem Facebook Facebook enables flirting with exotic people for those of us to lazy to go out or buy a plane ticket. And they enjoy it too without having to leave their husbands… In such cases, neither party has to part with money although Messenger now enables frequent contact with young girls (and sometimes young buckaroos) who want to extract (at the very least) data… Leaving Facebook is the new Vegan. Share First off, you can’t be a Guardian commenter and get on a high horse about Facebook. expanded 23 Mar 2018 1:05 Share Alex Vladi I won’t be cancelling my facebook account. For the very good reason that I never joined in the first place. Privacy matters. Share | Pick Reply … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. 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Every reader contribution, big or small, is so valuable. Support The Guardian from as little as $1 – and it only takes a minute. Thank you. 23 Mar 2018 0:18 Share on Facebook Facebook Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp 85 86 Facebook Grauniad99 Share on Twitter mintaka Report Report Share Wiretrip Report Facebook Nepthsolem Reply Me too.And it annoys me that the Guardian’s silly telephone interface seems to constantly call it in whilst scrolling. So come on Graun, if it’s awful enough to have been shamed at the top of the webpage for days on end now, why are its connections still all over your headline links? 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My interests on Facebook skew tabloid, in line with the platform’s promotional biases and I’m forever clicking through to Washington Post stories about freak accidents or hideous child murders in the DC metropolitan area. There are the hours lost to pointless genealogy searches and the occasional bout of hate-browsing.Am I better informed and better connected for all this? Sort of. But it is an incredibly inefficient way to get information and, as became clearer last night, inculcates a weird mindset. As I logged off, I was aware that my sense of having caught up with the news rested on a dangerous assumption, a split-second’s thought, but still there: if there is something else worth reading, they’ll let me know.• Emma Brockes is a Guardian columnist Share Report Twitter Report Report quakerisland Reply Facebook Reply ryan23 Report Share on Twittercenter_img Twitter | Pick robsmyth1 | Pick Report Nepthsolem Report 35 36 Share Reply Share Reply Facebook Nepthsolem Share on Twitter | Pick Share LallsMalms mikedow 100 30 31 | Pick I doubt enough people will delete the app to make enough of a difference. Instead people will probably lobby Facebook to do something about it on its own platform. robsmyth1 Share Share on Facebook | Pick Frances56 What are they doing with the info? 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For more detail see our FAQs. 4 9 10 It may be that a diet of distant relatives’ wedding photos and articles about child murders does not make me well informed Report Share Threads collapsed Twitter Twitter Facebook Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Facebook Reply John Harris Since you’re here… Facebook doesn’t even pay taxes and leeches on society. 1 2 3 4 Reply Facebook 23 Mar 2018 16:51 4 5 Report Report 5 Share on Twitter 0 1 Share on Twitter Reply Share Share on Facebook Facebook greedydawg Share Report @emmabrockes 23 Mar 2018 0:57 alanredangel Fortescue99 Share 5 6 Share Share on Facebook Reply No one can pretend Facebook is just harmless fun any more Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other 3 4 Report PeakFault robsmyth1 2 Share Share on Twitter | Pick 23 Mar 2018 0:45 Facebook Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment Thu 22 Mar 2018 12.11 EDT Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Facebook robsmyth1 Reply Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Facebook Share on Facebook 23 Mar 2018 21:15 Share Report I have some Facebook accounts. Created because some groups thought it was a good idea to use Facebook for their discussion forum and set the access to signed in only. I read what I wanted to and that was about it. No posting, one id used per group, no genuine names or personal data. I can’t delete the accounts because I can’t remember the ids and passwords. The equivalent of “didn’t inhale” I suppose, but when they claim n billion users it’s worth bearing in mind there is a bit of inflation there. Twitter Reply Report 23 Mar 2018 0:58 Last modified on Thu 22 Mar 2018 18.00 EDT 5 Share 5 6 Reply | Pick Share on Twitter Facebook Twitter Show 5 more replies Twitter Facebook 0 1 23 Mar 2018 0:56 Fortescue99 Share on WhatsApp Reply ValuedCustomer Share on Facebook Reason (optional) | Pick Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Never joined in the first place. I get really fed up with people who won’t communicate except via Facebook. What’s wrong with e-mail? Facebook is just sucking information out of your life and selling it to advertisers and other more malign people. Why would you give up all your info for free? | Pick Report 7 8 Social networking 15 16 Nepthsolem Facebook Facebook bradgate Share on Twitter Shares8181 Report Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 0:57 Share on Facebook I don’t even know what that term means! Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 21:55 Ellie Mae O’Hagan 2 3 Read more Share on Facebook 23 Mar 2018 1:05 Reply Share on Twitter 23 Mar 2018 1:21 Share on Facebook Reply Share on Twitter Share on Facebook unthreaded Abigailgem Report Reply 23 Mar 2018 1:06 Share on Twitter drragon | Pick | Pick Facebook fabcat21 arborfield 23 Mar 2018 0:54 The Guardian campaign to discredit facebook continues. Just stopped Guardian feeds cos they are becoming so moany and boring. bradgate FatCat08 Twitter Twitter Share on Facebook Facebook I often hear that being used as justification for being on social media, but you can use Messenger without the narcissistic, attention seeking Facebook bit. Share mintaka Share on Facebook The day I open a Facebook or Twitter account is the day I self-lobotomise using nothing but a potato peeler. Share on Twitter Report Twitter love the trad press huffing about impartiality and honesty and filtering and holding up FB as the devil. No sense of irony whatsoever the British press and politicians bitching about FB is like the Yorkshire ripper moaning about people who park badly Close report comment form Wiretrip 23 Mar 2018 0:50 Twitter Twitter 23 Mar 2018 0:41 Share on Facebook What would be lost if I deleted Facebook? Gratification Share Share It’s really quite simple. If you use Facebook with the knowledge and attitude that you only say things and post pictures that you would be happy being public knowledge then it’s fine. 23 Mar 2018 0:44 | Pick Share on Facebook leadballoon | Pick Share on Facebook Gratifying? It depresses and makes anxious the addicted victims: if it were gratifying they would relax. Instead they keep returning in an attempt to keep up with fake lives and be part of a non-existent community. As for being informed, it is a sign of the times that you confuse ill-informed gossip and advertising with information. 0 1 bradgate Reply Emma Brockes Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Twitter Report Share on Twitter Report Report 23 Mar 2018 0:25 23 Mar 2018 0:45 | Pick Share If you want Likes, just come and comment BTL. Write something partisan- The Brexit Elite will destroy our country!- and watch the upvotes pour in. Please up vote this comment. I need dopamine!! 23 Mar 2018 1:15 Report Facebook Reply Please tell me you are being ironic and you really don’t think the answers you see are not also filtered? 23 Mar 2018 17:31 Reply 23 Mar 2018 1:05 23 Mar 2018 1:07 Report Reply 23 Mar 2018 2:29 Reply Twitter Twitter Share quakerisland Twitter Facebook 12 13 Twitter Report You’re leaving Facebook! How do we go on? Can we even continue? Oh, nothing seems to have changed. | Pick lotusblue | Pick If yours is a diet of distant relatives’ wedding photos and articles about child murders, then you’re doing Facebook all wrong. Facebook Share on Twitter But I know vegangelicals who use Facebook to share and elevate their holier than thou attitudes. Share on Facebook ‘In the interests of gauging what might be lost by deleting Facebook, looking at my own usage was pretty sobering.’Photograph: Josh Edelson/AFP/Getty Images 7 8 Opinion 6 7 4 5 Share on Twitter Facebook Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Report Share on Twitter Report Share on Twitter Share on LinkedIn Twitter Share Report recommendations 20 21 GrauniadsOfTheGalaxy | Pick fabcat21 Ah, but which search box?If you use Google, the results you get have been through their filter. Share on Twitter You’ll be more savvy and less simpleton… I agree with this and this is why I’m still on it myself. It’s the groups I’m part of that are the reason I haven’t packed it in. I rarely post anything on my ‘wall’ (is it still called that?) but I do enjoy being part of several groups/forums. Share Opinion Facebook Sadly, that just means Google’s filters, or somebody elses, and what you get is stuff, not information. To convert it into information, you need to be able to analyse it and be sure of it’s provence – not possible with the web, since it is so easy to create fake histories and web sites. Share 23 Mar 2018 0:52 Share on Facebook Facebook | Pick Reply Share 23 Mar 2018 0:54 17 18 Facebook Share on Twitter I have another perspective about Facebook. Knowing all its data disasters, all its privacy horrors, I still cannot allow myself to quit. I am using Facebook not for browsing wedding photos or cat-contents. Facebook is still the huge community, where you can globally find people of your interests. For example, I am writing about European Avant-Garde, Dadaism, Surrealism etc. A rare topic. There are many forums out there, in each of them I should create my accounts etc. In Facebook I can reach most of those people in a central communication tool. Sure, privat use of Facebook is questionable. But if you exchange your ideas, your thoughts, your observations with like-minded people, FB (plus Twitter) are the most useful communities. I see people quitting Facebook toward various smaller social networks, forums, systems. I can fully understand them, but it will be more difficult to have contact with all of them and to reach them in one communication point. 14 15 Share on Facebook Reply Email (optional) Twitter neko99 View more commentslast_img read more